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Status Not under consideration
Workspace Knowledge Catalog
Created by Guest
Created on Feb 28, 2023

Possibility to import metadata without the need to access the data

As a data user, I need the possibility to extract the metadata from different systems without the need to have access to data. 

 

This will ensure we are able to have a clear image of the different data available in the systems just by reading the dictionary tables. Additionally the profiling and the previews will be created.

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  • Guest
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    Dec 14, 2023

    Hi guys, I understand that this feature was implemented in WKC 4.7.2. Look at this link https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/cloud-paks/cp-data/4.7.x?topic=metadata-designing-imports.

    "Collect metadata from database catalog

    For metadata imports with the goal Discover that you run on relational databases, you can choose to import metadata from the database catalog. Thus, the user who runs the import needs access only to the database catalog but doesn't need to have SELECT permission on the actual data. The imported assets cannot be profiled or used in metadata enrichment.

    This option is available starting in Cloud Pak for Data 4.7.2."

    Sidnei


  • Admin
    Jacob Stellon
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    Mar 27, 2023

    Hi Oana,

    We discussed this with our team of developers that create CPD connections to external technologies for metadata import. We believe it is not possible to import metadata without access to the data itself.

    In many cases the DBMS system catalog will not reveal objects for which you do not have access. For example, if you query the Db2 Warehouse system catalog, you will not see objects for which you do not have access. Db2 Warehouse views this as a security feature. If you do not have access to an object, then you should not be able to query the catalog to even know of the object's existence or learn anything about its schema. Teradata has a similar security feature.

    I am happy to discuss this in more detail, but I am marking this as "will not implement"

  • Guest
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    Mar 27, 2023

    Hello,


    The functionality does NOT exist. And I want to import the metadata not enrich it, there are 2 different concepts. I understand the profiling cannot be done without access to the data, but I want to be able to make that choice and just import the metadata without profiling it.


    Oana

  • Admin
    Michal Szylar
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    Mar 24, 2023

    Hello, marking as "functionality already exist".

  • Admin
    Michal Szylar
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    Mar 3, 2023

    Hi,

    profiling cannot work without the access to data, as data analysis is essential part of profiling (please find more information at: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/cloud-paks/cp-data/4.6.x?topic=data-enriching-your-assets ).

    That said, it is already possible to run metadata enrichment -> term assignment without the actual access to data assets.

    Can you please provide more information on what is missing in existing functionality?

    Best regards,

    Michal