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Status Not under consideration
Workspace Spectrum LSF
Created by Guest
Created on Dec 9, 2019

LSF service protection for queries

Before I explain it,
this feature request is very important to us because it affects the entire LSF service.
If these features are provided, we believe that we can achieve higher safety for our LSF products.

Suddenly there was a mbatchd load issue with a huge increase in the number of LSF queries.
We have experienced it twice this year.
I received a detailed "badmin diagnose -c query" report from the IBM support team at that time.
And we found that some 3 people consumed about 40% of total bjobs query.

As the LSF cluster grows,
the number of users and queries are also growing.

I think you can advise me about MAX_CONCURRENT_JOB_QUERY.
MAX_CONCURRENT_JOB_QUERY can help, but as you know this is a limitation for the entire query.

Not a limit on the entire query,
I want to set a limit for a specific user.

Because I think it's not a good idea to lower the limit on the entire query because the specific user is the problem.

So I hope to be able to provide the following function.

1) For each user, there is a limit to the number of queries that can request during a given time interval.
2) For each user, there is a limit to the query data size that can request during a given time interval.
3) Combination of #2 and #3

User mistakes can cause many queries.
However, there is no way to control the query of these users.

Because of the large number of users, we can't educate and control all users,
If you create these features, it will be a great help for our cluster managing.

I'm not sure if it can create a load on mbatchd or mbschd.
Nevertheless, if there are no side effects, I think this feature will help LSF in the future.

Please give favourable consideration to this request.

  • Admin
    Bill McMillan
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    May 22, 2024

    The LSF Proxy Service delivered in Service Pack 14 would also help with this.

  • Guest
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    Mar 30, 2020

    Best practice is to use the tools available to identify problematic workflows that impact everyone else.
    You state that 40% of the load was coming from 3 users - best practice would be to educate these users and help them improve their workflows/scripts to reduce the load.

    Adding packet inspection to every incoming query would impact the performance for all users, not just for those specific users. Likewise, such a feature would require a complete upgrade to the whole cluster as every binary would need replace, port numbers changed etc...it would be very intrusive and disruptive.