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Hello, Thank you for your patience. Db2 development has reviewed your comments.
The shadow dataset is allocated by DFSMSdss FlashCopy, not by Db2. Therefore UTRO must be set first.
Ultimately what is required here is a redesign of CHECK utilities such as CHECK LOB to avoid the dependency upon the use of FlashCopy and operate truly online against active pagesets. This is something we have been considering but it is not on our roadmap at this time.
Hello, Thank you for your patience. I have reminded our development team to please review the recent Idea comments and respond here.
Hello, Thank you for your additional information. Db2z developments' response will be shared with you shortly.
It looks like IBM in general don't reply when customer ask or comment on Ideas?
Is that true?
If not I suggest Janet Figone try to get a response.
And even more....We just completed a new test of CHECK LOB SHRLEVEL CHANGE.
The results look the same, with tablespace in UTRO for minutes while Flashcopy is allocating.
As long as you UTRO lock the tablespace prior to activating Flashcopy, you will see an outage with a duration depending on the number of extents needed. This design will never be able to support 24/7 availability.
This scenario will be easy to recreate in the LAB, as all you need is a huge LOB for testing purpose.
One more thing. I received a bit of info from local CE regarding the APAR. But when I try to look it up it appears like something that doesn't exist yet. I can't read about the parameter named SETSMS BYPASS_CLUSTER_PREFERENCING(YES|NO). Could I ask you to be more specific and detailed in your responses?
Isn't 'all you need' from DB2 side this?
Take the UTRO lock AFTER Flashcopy has allocated datasets and ready to receive data? That would lower the outtage dramatically.
Hello Søren,
IBM is providing APAR OA59041, OA59042 and OA59043 information to Kasper. He will follow up with you.
Kind Regards,
Janet
Hello Søren,
The design of CHECK utilities with SHRLEVEL CHANGE is that Db2 will drain updates whilst performing a FlashCopy. The intent being that the copy is quick enough that no application impact is noticed. This is in fact what you see except when lots of extents are necessary. The DFSMSdss performance improvement in this area is significant, but we could not guarantee that no impact would be noticed by applications since it's dependent upon a number of factors such as your IRLM lock timeout interval. The design of the utility temporarily setting UTRO remains in place and there are no plans to change that design at the current time.
Kind Regards,
Db2 for z/OS Development
Not sure i understand this.
Will the mentioned APARs make the utility full concurrent so we avoid outtages? Otherwise I must ask you to elaborate and infororm us how we can implement such a function in our production environment with 24*7 availibility.
Thank you for submitting this enhancement request. Db2 for z/OS development reviewed it and determined the CHECK utilities run SHRLEVEL CHANGE do require the use of FlashCopy. There are no plans at this time to remove that dependency or redesign this. However, the underlying issue reported here is the performance of FlashCopy when multiple extents are required. DFSMSdss has investigated this and provided a significant performance improvement via APARs OA59041, OA59042 and OA59043.